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Shaping the Churches of Tomorrow, Today

Welcome to Next Sunday, more than just a podcast—it's your vibrant community of forward-thinking church leaders. Our episodes are crafted to serve as a dynamic field guide for bridging generations, cultivating generosity, and inspiring transformation within the church. Together, we will tackle challenges head-on, celebrate our victories, and possibly ruffle a few feathers because what happens next Sunday could change everything.

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What Your Biggest Givers Wish You Knew

Posted 6/2/26

In this episode of The Next Sunday Podcast, Jim Sheppard and Frank Bealer build on a core principle: all givers are the same, but not all gifts are the same—and explore what that means for pastors who want to shepherd high-capacity givers with integrity.

Jim explains why many wealthy or high-capacity givers are approached transactionally everywhere they go,  and why a pastor must lead differently. The starting point is not a “money conversation,” but a discipleship conversation: for many people, extreme resources come with a stewardship assignment they feel unprepared to carry. Some are first-generation wealthy, some are newer believers, and many are navigating complex financial pressures that others assume they don’t face.

They also address a common pastoral fear: “If I reach out, they’ll think I’m only calling because of their giving.” Jim challenges leaders to examine their heart posture,  because the anxiety often reveals a transactional mindset that needs to be confronted before a healthy pastoral conversation can happen.

The episode closes with a practical call to shepherd people toward progressive sanctification in generosity—helping them grow over time, not pressuring them into performative giving—and reminding leaders that a generosity initiative can hit financial goals while still failing to form people spiritually.


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Lessons From Leadership Transition

Posted 5/19/26

Leadership succession is rarely smooth—especially in the faith-based space. That’s why good transition stories feel almost surprising.

In this episode of The Next Sunday Podcast, Jim Sheppard and Frank Bealer revisit a major transition at Generis, one year later, to unpack what made it work. Not perfectly, but healthily. Not by accident, but through intentional “heart work” before the handoff ever happened.

Jim describes succession like a relay race: baton release and baton embrace. The transition doesn’t succeed just because the next leader is capable — it succeeds when the previous leader is truly ready to let go. Jim gets specific about the two internal deal-breakers that can sabotage succession: identity and control. And Frank names what many teams miss: the hardest part of transition is often the heart work behind the scenes.

They also talk about what built stability long before the announcement—relational capital, trust, and honest processing—and how clarity in communication (and follow-through in actions) protects the new leader from operating under a shadow.

Finally, the conversation ends with a transferable takeaway for any leader facing succession: if the baton can’t be fully released, it can’t be fully embraced. And healthy transitions require both.


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Misdiagnosed: Stop Managing What You Need to Solve

Posted 4/28/26

Leaders often hide behind a helpful phrase: “Some things are a tension to manage.”

But what happens when a leader uses that language to avoid naming a problem that clearly needs to be solved?

In this episode of The Next Sunday Podcast, Jim Sheppard and Frank Bealer unpack a subtle but dangerous leadership drift: misdiagnosis. Frank shares the core idea behind his Misdiagnosed Substack post—how tired, cautious, or low-margin leaders can relabel problems as “tensions,” dress avoidance in the language of wisdom, and quietly allow dysfunction to settle into the culture.

They explore why this happens (fatigue, conflict avoidance, emotional self-protection), how growth can mask misdiagnosis, and why good leaders often don’t lack solutions—they lack accuracy. Along the way, they challenge leaders to pick up the flashlight again: not just to address what is obvious, but to search the corners where issues hide because dealing with them carries a real cost.

The conversation also gets practical around team leadership, especially when the hard issue involves a staff member. Jim offers a clear principle: keeping the wrong fit around is rarely kindness. It erodes the team, reinforces dysfunction, and delays what needs to happen for the sake of the mission.

This episode is a call back to courage: name what’s real, turn the light on, and steward what God has entrusted to you with clarity.


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Stop Apologizing! You're not "Spending Money On Yourself"

Posted 4/14/26

“Spending money on ourselves” is one of the most common phrases church leaders use during building campaigns—and one of the most confusing.

In this episode of The Next Sunday Podcast, Jim Sheppard and Frank Bealer unpack why that language quietly undermines confidence, creates unnecessary guilt, and misframes what church infrastructure is actually for. Jim argues that most facility projects are not designed for the people already in the room. They’re designed to create capacity for the people who aren’t there yet.

The solution is a simple reframing that brings theology and strategy into alignment: we invest inside the walls so we can be more effective outside the walls. When leaders adopt that language, the mission becomes clearer, the giving conversation becomes cleaner, and the church stops apologizing for building the “base camp” needed to advance the work God has called them to do.

Along the way, they explore why this phrase keeps creeping in (anxiety about money, transactional framing, inherited tradition), how misused “percentage give-back” language can further muddy the waters, and why pastors must lead a cultural reset so the whole church gets on the same page.


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All Givers Are The Same, But Not All Gifts Are The same

Posted 3/31/26

All givers are the same. But not all gifts are the same.

In this episode of The Next Sunday Podcast, Jim Sheppard and Frank Bealer tackle a common tension church leaders feel in generosity conversations: how do you honor every giver without pretending every gift has the same impact?

Jim explains why this matters, especially when churches default to a single giving story,  often the widow and her two coins, as the primary lens for generosity. While that story is powerful, Jim argues it can unintentionally shrink a church’s theology of giving, limit how leaders speak to generosity, and even become a subtle justification for undeveloped discipleship.

To bring clarity, Jim walks through three “bookend” giving examples in Scripture:

• The widow’s gift, magnanimous because of sacrifice

• Mary’s gift, profound because of worship and devotion

• David’s gift, transformational because of scale and impact

Scripture honors all three,  not because the gifts were equal, but because the givers were.

The conversation also addresses a practical fear: “If we segment conversations in a giving initiative, are we showing favoritism?” Jim offers a reframing that many leaders miss: gathering faithful givers first isn’t favoritism—it’s often the opposite. These are the people asked to sacrifice first, set the pace, and carry the heaviest load so the whole church can move forward together.

This episode gives pastors and church leaders clear language, biblical grounding, and a healthier framework for talking about generosity in a way that honors every person while acknowledging the real differences gifts can make in advancing the mission.


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YOUR HOSTS

FRANK BEALER &

JIM SHEPPARD

 

Frank Bealer

Frank is a distinguished leader and innovator in organizational leadership, church ministry, and family-centered development. As the Co-Founder of Phase Franchise Partners, Frank has demonstrated a profound commitment to creating environments that support family growth and community engagement.

He also serves as an advisor and Chief Strategy Officer at Generis. Frank leverages his diverse background to serve churches and non-profit organizations to help maximize their potential through effective stewardship and generosity strategies.

Frank is a devoted husband and father to six children with many other notable professional endeavors that have informed his extensive leadership. His family is at the heart of everything he does, inspiring his work and his dedication to creating positive change in the lives of others.

Jim Sheppard

Jim Sheppard is CEO & Principal of Generis, a consulting firm passionate about helping churches inspire and cultivate generosity through giving development, coaching, and strategy.

Jim is a student of generosity and is passionate about spreading it throughout the Church. For the last 30+ years, he has devoted his life to coaching pastors especially in navigating the resource limitations that restrict their ministry potential. Jim understands the financial challenges that churches face today; annual giving, debt, capital projects, and planned giving. He is a positive force in bridging these needs with the power of spiritually motivated stewardship. Cumulatively, Jim has partnered with his clients to raise over $2 billion for local church ministry. Jim is a frequent writer and speaker on generosity and ministry funding. He is co-author of Contagious Generosity: Creating A Culture Of Giving In Your Church.

Jim and his wife, Nancy, live in the Atlanta, GA area and they have two married daughters. He is actively involved in his church where he serves as an elder and provides guidance to the Generosity Ministry Team.

 
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